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The big deal with a big debt

Aug 31, 2026 · 17m

Summary

NPR hosts Tamara Keith and Eric McDaniel join Scott Horsley to discuss the U.S. national debt surpassing $40 trillion and the approaching $2 trillion deficit. They explain how rising interest costs impact private borrowers and why political dynamics, including partisan spending priorities, hinder fiscal solutions. The episode highlights that debt is growing three times faster than the economy, creating long-term economic risks.

Topics discussed

Introduction: National debt hits $40 trillion The cost of debt: Interest payments rising Impact on private borrowers and interest rates Debt for daily spending vs. long-term investment Flaws in comparing national budget to household Future risks: Crowding out and lender confidence Political history: Tax cuts and deficit growth Why politicians avoid cutting spending Mandatory spending and potential solutions
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