Bernie Sanders Takes on Data Centers
Aug 14, 2026 · 26m
Summary
Senator Bernie Sanders joins David Remnick to discuss his push for a national moratorium on AI data centers, citing environmental damage and job displacement. Sanders argues that rapid AI advancement threatens democracy and privacy, advocating for an American AI Sovereign Wealth Fund to ensure public oversight and shared profits. The conversation also touches on grassroots resistance to these facilities and Sanders’ perspective on recent political victories, emphasizing the need for guardrails that prioritize ordinary people over tech oligarchs.
Topics discussed
Sponsors and show introduction
AI data centers: environmental impact and moratorium proposal
Motivations for slowing down AI development
Conversations with AI experts and Sam Altman
Risks to jobs, privacy, democracy, and mental health
American AI Sovereign Wealth Fund Act proposal
NDAs, grassroots resistance, and local opposition
Sponsors and break
Historical context and legislative challenges
Erin Brockovich and generational vs ideological divides
Analysis of Abdul El-Sayed's Michigan primary victory
Closing remarks and New Yorker subscription promo
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