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Stop Wasting Your Energy: How to Deal With People Who Won’t Change & What to Do Instead

Aug 27, 2026 · 1h 9m

Summary

Mel Robbins interviews social psychologist Dr. Dolly Chugh on how to inspire change in loved ones without pushing them away. They discuss why people resist change due to energy conservation and ego protection, introducing the concept of being "goodish" rather than striving to be "good." The episode outlines three effective strategies: modeling change, inviting it with grace, and rewarding small efforts. Listeners also learn the "WAIT" rule to stop unsolicited advice and techniques for handling defensiveness.

Topics discussed

Introduction: Dealing with people who won't change Sponsors: SNHU, American Home Shield, Pure Genius Protein Guest Intro: Dr. Dolly Chugh on human behavior The gap between knowing and doing Ego protection and resistance to change The Stroop Test and internal friction Proving vs. Improving: The Goodish Person Skills require practice and improvement Evaluating growth over success Sponsors: Soma, AG1, Mattress Firm Pull vs. Push: Creating conditions for change Modeling change and rewarding effort The WAIT Rule and Heard, Hugged, Helped Sponsors: Soma, Wayfair, Genesis GV70 Giving specific, non-adjective feedback The 1-10 Scale for conflict resolution Letting others face consequences Shout Outs and Own It practices Conclusion: Hope lies in growth Outro and Sponsors: Clarendon, Belvita
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