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Former CIA Spy: How to Eliminate Self-Doubt, Build Confidence, and Protect Yourself in Today’s World

Aug 17, 2026 · 1h 9m

Summary

Mel Robbins interviews Jonna Mendez, the former CIA Chief of Disguise, who shares thrilling stories from her three-decade espionage career. Mendez reveals how she created convincing disguises, fooled President George H.W. Bush, and helped execute the Argo extraction. She also discusses spy gadgets, the psychology of recruitment, and offers wisdom on courage, change, and trusting your intuition.

Topics discussed

Introduction to Jonna Mendez, former CIA Chief of Disguise From secretary to spy: Jonna's unexpected career path Advice on career changes and overcoming ceilings The true story behind the movie Argo and the Canadian Embassy Recruiting spies: MICE (Money, Ideology, Coercion, Ego) Sponsor break: iHerb, iXL, and Function Health Disguise techniques: Masks, wigs, and tricking the President Exfiltrating a family across a border with a Billy Joel tape Sponsor break: Nutrafol, Babbel, and Quince Surviving danger: Intuition, training, and mental escape Detecting lies and trusting your intuition Reinvention, global threats, and the state of the world The true meaning of courage and women in the CIA Outro, bloopers, and final sponsor messages
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