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Anne Applebaum on the Grifters and Ideologues Reshaping US Foreign Policy

Oct 1, 2026 · 1h 3m

Summary

Anne Applebaum argues that Trump’s foreign policy is a revolutionary shift driven by ideological grift, replacing traditional diplomacy with self-serving deals that undermine global stability. She details how the administration’s focus on personal gain and civilizational identity has weakened alliances, particularly in Europe, while amateurish negotiations with Russia and Iran prolong the Ukraine war. Applebaum emphasizes that this approach threatens American security by emboldening adversaries and eroding the international order that has historically protected US interests.

Topics discussed

Introduction and guest Anne Applebaum The 'revolution' in US foreign policy and institutional decay Ambitions to remake the world and weaken Europe Hostility toward the EU and tech industry influence Assault on institutions and the rise of grifters Diplomatic failures and lack of expertise in negotiations Kushner and Witkoff's impact on the Ukraine war Is the US still part of the free world? Why Ukraine is still fighting and European solidarity The three aspects of the current war in Ukraine Explaining the stakes of the war to Americans Global economic and security consequences of the war Should the US use military force to protect Ukraine? US policy in Venezuela and the oil deal controversy The Greenland dispute and trust in NATO Host takeaways and the civilizational worldview
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