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MAGGIE HABERMAN SPENT 1,000 INTERVIEWS FINDING OUT HOW BAD IT REALLY IS. NOW SHE'S TELLING RICK. 📕😳🔥

Sep 8, 2026 · 58m

Summary

Maggie Haberman discusses her new book, *Regime Change*, analyzing the second Trump administration’s shift toward authoritarianism and the "regime change" within the U.S. presidency. The episode covers the early administration's chaos, including Elon Musk’s disruptive role and the fallout from the Epstein files controversy, which split Trump’s base. Haberman also details the DOJ’s handling of political retribution against figures like James Comey and Letitia James, while addressing Trump’s declining health and the unprecedented self-enrichment of the president and his family.

Topics discussed

Sponsor: ChatGPT Work Sponsor: Indeed Jobs Intro: Trump's future in public life Welcome and guest introduction Origins of the book 'Regime Change' Defining the concept of regime change Congress and media landscape shifts Book scope and through-lines of power Selection of advisors and Elon Musk Musk's early impact and paralysis Musk as co-president and DOGE Clash between Rubio and Musk Sponsor: Babel Language Learning DOGE sledgehammer and complaints Confusion in government agencies Serving two masters: Trump and Musk Epstein files and base credibility Musk's tweet and internal knowledge Trump's relationship with Epstein Administration's reaction to Epstein Meetings on Maxwell and strategy Loss of credibility with the base Sponsor: Quince Clothing Pam Bondi's initial rollout Bondi's role and relationship with Trump Todd Blanche as the ideal advisor Selection of Bondi and early errors Influencers and the Epstein binders White House anger and Bondi interview Bondi's 'files on my desk' comment Blanche's role in file review Maxwell interview and prison transfer Summer discussions on Epstein files Unverified claims and civil suits Vance's stance on releasing files DOJ files and transparency issues NY prosecutors and Blanche's role Trump's criticism of Blanche and Bondi Retribution and targeting opponents Effectiveness of retribution strategy The '86' term and case status Process as punishment Amendment on first term retribution Sponsor: Sensodyne Clinical White Sponsor: Eminem Popped Caramel Sponsor: AT&T Sponsor: ChatGPT for Business January 6th fund and protection orders Self-enrichment and scale IRS audits and tax returns Blanche's first 24 hours Executive privilege and contempt charges Special government employee status Anthropologist of Trump Trump's physical health signs Taking files from the office Chronic swelling and medical issues Transparency on presidential health Sleeping at public events Sponsor: Sensodyne Clinical White Off-year elections and succession Rubio's potential run Trump's campaign strategy Leaving the White House vs public stage Book vs story criticism Source notes and reporting process Iran war and habeas corpus discussions Internet age and publishing speed Litigious subjects and accuracy Closing remarks and thanks Outro and sponsor: ChatGPT Sponsor: Questlove Sponsor: Eminem Popped Caramel
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