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141. Stage 2 Series: The Heart of Stage 2: Conversations with EFT’s Leading Voices (Special Guests Drs. Marlene Best, Kathryn Rheem, Jim Furrow)

May 27, 2026 · 1h 12m

Summary

Hosts Dr. James Hawkins and Dr. Ryan Reyna interview EFT experts Dr. Jim Furrow, Dr. Catherine Rehm, and Dr. Marlene Best about Stage 2 therapy. They discuss the research behind withdrawal reengagement and pursuer softening, emphasizing the need for therapists to guide clients into experiential contact with fear. The panel highlights how integrating attachment longing with fear creates the necessary momentum for deep emotional change and secure bonding.

Topics discussed

Introduction and guest backgrounds History of Stage 2 research and development Withdrawer re-engagement and fear processing Pursuer softening and the role of longing Intertwining fear and longing in therapy Distinguishing Stage 1 and Stage 2 goals Addressing shame and sadness in withdrawers Recommended readings and closing remarks
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