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Lawfare Archive: Juliette Kayyem on Dealing with Disasters

Sep 5, 2026 · 49m

Summary

Juliet Kayam discusses her book, The Devil Never Sleeps, arguing that disaster planning must shift from preventing crises to minimizing their consequences. She explains the "paradox of preparedness" and uses examples like the Challenger explosion, Fukushima, and the Suez Canal blockage to illustrate how effective communication and fail-safe systems prevent cascading failures. Kayam emphasizes that accepting the inevitability of disasters allows leaders to focus on reducing "stupid deaths" and managing the immediate aftermath rather than solely on avoidance.

Topics discussed

Introduction: Recent disasters and guest Juliet Kayyem Reframing disaster management: Left vs. Right of Boom The pandemic as a case study in consequence minimization Common patterns in disasters and 'stupid deaths' The paradox of preparedness and the Y2K example Organizational blind spots and the etymology of disaster Building communication systems for crisis information flow Ignoring experts: Challenger and Russian military logistics Fukushima: Policy decisions and learning to fail safely Super Bowl blackout: Planning for cascading losses Tabletop exercises and leadership succession planning Global supply chains: Suez Canal and historical adaptability Conclusion: Allocating resources for inevitable disruptions
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