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How Do Fungi Keep the Planet Healthy?

Oct 15, 2026 · 56m

Summary

Hosts and evolutionary biologist Toby Kears explore the vital role of mycorrhizal fungi, which connect plant roots in vast underground networks. Kears explains how these fungi facilitate nutrient exchange, regulate climate by sequestering carbon, and even engage in complex economic behaviors like price-gouging and partner discrimination. The discussion highlights the "wood wide web" as a living circulatory system essential for soil health and biodiversity. Kears also shares her work with the nonprofit SPUN, which aims to map and protect these invisible ecosystems globally through field expe…

Topics discussed

Intro: The Deep End podcast ad Setting the scene: Central Park and the dirt Introduction to mycorrhizal fungi and guest Toby Kiers The ancient partnership: Fungi as the first root systems Visualizing the network: Tubes, nodes, and imaging robots The physics of flow: Lipids, pressure, and the Galileo analogy How nutrients move: Molecular motors and aquaporins Climate impact: 13 billion tons of CO2 and food security The case for caring: Biodiversity and nutrient cycles The underground economy: Symbiosis as market trade Lab experiments: Plants discriminating between fungal strains Strategic behavior: Price gouging and shading effects Cheaters and complexity: Orchids and emergent intelligence Consciousness in networks: Anthropomorphism vs. mechanics Defining intelligence: Information processing without a brain Microbes vs. macrobes: The scale of fungal networks Soybeans and bacteria: Nitrogen fixation and oxygen control The cheat experiment: Argon gas and plant responses Tools of the trade: Quantum dots and fluorescent tracking Bacteria in the network: Meniscus movement and manipulation The Underground Atlas: Mapping global fungal diversity Fieldwork and hotspots: Finding the Amazon of the underground Charisma of fungi: Spores, clouds, and microscopy Rethinking life: Interdependence and the nature of individuals Challenging sex: Dual genomes and genetic continuity Cooperation and conflict: Tension as a driver of evolution Closing thoughts: Lessons from nature and the boundary of life Outro: Credits and subscription information
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