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1383: Christopher Ryan | The Dark Side of Civilization and Progress

Sep 17, 2026 · 1h 41m

Summary

Chris Ryan challenges the "Neo-Hobbesian" narrative that civilization rescued humanity from a brutish past, arguing that modernity actually caused many diseases and social ills. He contends that hunter-gatherer societies were healthier and more connected, while modern convenience and commercial interests have led to isolation, mental health crises, and a disconnect from our evolutionary needs. The episode explores how disaster sociology reveals human kindness in crises, contrasts cultural values on work and leisure, and suggests we must redesign society to prioritize human flourishing over …

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