Joe Rogan interviews journalist Jamie Dettmer to discuss the ongoing exploitation and environmental destruction in the DRC, where 300,000 people, including children, mine cobalt and lithium for global tech and EV supply chains. Dettmer details the severe health hazards, the hypocrisy of Western environmental standards, and the potential link between Congolese uranium and China’s nuclear stockpile. The conversation also covers Dettmer’s new book on the slave ship *Zong*, exploring how the Atlantic slave trade shaped modern finance and sparked the first abolitionist movement.
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