The Iran Breakdown with Mark Dubowitz The Iran Breakdown with Mark Dubowitz

Subterranean Warfare: Can Pickaxe Mountain Be Destroyed?

Aug 6, 2026 · 1h 3m

Summary

Mark Dubowitz interviews TraceR CEO to discuss combating subterranean threats, from Hamas tunnels to Iran’s Pickaxe Mountain. They define "Subterra" warfare categories and detail TraceR’s autonomous demolition systems designed to collapse underground infrastructure mechanically. The conversation highlights how these technologies offer a viable solution for destroying deeply buried nuclear facilities that current kinetic weapons cannot reach.

Topics discussed

Introduction: CEO background and founding of TraceR The subterranean warfare gap and global tunnel threats Funding, strategy, and the 'Subterra' domain definition Subterra 1: Excavator-class autonomous demolition systems Subterra 2 & 3: Hard rock challenges and horizontal drilling Striking Pickaxe Mountain: Deeply buried nuclear facilities Procurement hurdles and the need for US subterranean deterrence Battle damage assessment, special ops integration, and conclusion
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