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She’s Been to Gaza. She Met With the Iranians. Now She Has a Warning.

Oct 10, 2026 · 42m

Summary

Lulu Garcia-Navarro interviews Mirjana Spojadic, the first female president of the International Committee of the Red Cross, about the escalating global crisis of armed conflicts. Spojadic argues that the world is living in a "decade of war" where leaders increasingly ignore the Geneva Conventions, citing the severe humanitarian crisis in Gaza and the complex, interconnected nature of modern conflicts. She emphasizes the critical importance of neutrality and confidentiality for the ICRC to operate effectively in dangerous zones, while criticizing the erosion of diplomatic language and the f…

Topics discussed

Sponsorship and introduction to the guest Overview of the ICRC and the Geneva Conventions Rising global conflicts and the need for rules of war The nature of war and the risk of World War III Personal experiences visiting conflict zones Humanitarian crisis and double standards in Gaza Hostage negotiations and ICRC access challenges Detention conditions and the importance of information The psychological impact of war on soldiers Personal history and motivation for peacework Gender perspective in leading the ICRC Managing emotional toll and personal resilience The necessity of neutrality and confidentiality Complexity of modern conflicts and economic fallout Erosion of diplomatic language and political will Losing the capacity to resolve conflicts The fragility of the post-WWII international order Rebuilding a global narrative of peace Credits and upcoming episode preview Sponsor message from Viking
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