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The chilling effect of ICE in hospitals

Oct 8, 2026 · 9m

Summary

This episode explores how heightened immigration enforcement is chilling communities and disrupting healthcare access. Featuring nurse Kelly Brennan and public health expert William Lopez, it details how fear of ICE raids leads to missed appointments, staff shortages, and delayed treatment. The hosts discuss studies showing increased emergency room visits and poor birth outcomes, highlighting the economic and human costs of diverting resources from patient care to enforcement.

Topics discussed

Intro: The Pit episode and ICE in hospitals Sponsor messages: HubSpot, Rinse, LinkedIn Nurses protest ICE; Kelly Brennan's story Staffing shortages and missed appointments in Maine Study: ER visits drop, admissions rise in LA Expert analysis: Fear and behavioral changes Impact on birth outcomes and child nutrition Decrease in routine checkups for children Detention of a nurse and DHS response Hospital policies and economic costs of enforcement Conclusion: Economic vs human costs and credits Sponsor message: Midi Health
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