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Why the Pope wants to disarm AI

Jul 16, 2026 · 8m

Summary

This episode explores Pope Leo XIV’s new encyclical on artificial intelligence, drawing parallels to Pope Leo XIII’s 19th-century stance on industrialization. Hosts Waylon Wong and Darian Woods discuss how both popes addressed technological disruptions, with Leo XIII supporting labor rights and Leo XIV warning against AI’s impact on human connection. The discussion features historian Janine Giordano Drake and Father Enzo del Brocco, examining the Church’s call to prioritize human dignity over technological efficiency.

Topics discussed

Pope Leo XIV's encyclical on AI and humanity Sponsors: Schwab, Edward Jones, and Dell Pope Leo XIII's stance on socialism and property Leo XIII's support for unions and living wages Modern AI challenges and the illusion of relationships Data ownership and the Church's role in tech ethics Outro and sponsor message
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