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It's come to this: Human certification in the age of AI slop

May 20, 2026 · 9m

Summary

Novelist Ned Hayes founded Human Intelligence to certify human-made art amid rising AI concerns, inspired by his background in tech standards. The episode details how the company verifies creators by analyzing draft metadata, featuring musician Corin Tucker as an early adopter. Hosts Darian Woods and Waylon Wong also undergo the verification process to demonstrate the system's rigor.

Topics discussed

Intro: Ned Hayes and the challenge of AI art Sponsors: Dataiku, Charles Schwab, Tiny Desk Ned Hayes' background in tech standards and XML Inspiration for a 'human-made' certification standard Building Human Intelligence and its verification process Early skepticism and the concept of 'AI slop' Case study: Corin Tucker's certification process Business model and audience willingness to pay more Growth of sign-ups and competing certifications Hosts attempt to verify their own episode as human-made Credits, NPR support appeal, and Up First promo
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