The Indicator from Planet Money The Indicator from Planet Money

The fired labor economist who couldn't get unemployment

Jun 8, 2026 · 8m

Summary

The Indicator examines the flaws in the U.S. unemployment insurance system, using former BLS commissioner Erica McIntyre’s frustrating application experience as a case study. Economist Catherine Ann Edwards argues the Depression-era model is outdated, citing inconsistent state benefits and low replacement rates that fail to cover modern living costs. The episode proposes federalizing the system with tiered benefits and expanded eligibility to improve economic efficiency and help workers find better job matches.

Topics discussed

Erica McIntyre's struggle with unemployment app Sponsor messages from Dataiku, IXL, and Edward Jones Why the current unemployment system is outdated State-by-state variations and filing barriers Benefit caps fail to cover modern living costs Proposals for a federalized, tiered system Erica McIntyre's new role and episode credits Tiny Desk Tour promo and We Keep Us Safe trailer
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