453 - Psycho 2
Summary
Todd and Paige discuss the 1983 Psycho remake, criticizing its flawed premise of releasing a serial killer and its confusing plot twists involving multiple "mothers." They analyze the film's pacing issues, the recasting of Norman Bates as a reformed but delusional character, and the movie's perceived conservative sensibilities regarding crime and law enforcement. The hosts also debate the legal impossibility of Norman’s parole and the handling of the murder weapon, concluding that the film’s attempt to absolve its characters results in a frustrating and incoherent narrative.
Topics discussed
Intro: Todd's crazy UK TV ad for 'Anne Droid'
Welcome to Horror Virgin and this week's film
Initial reactions: Norman as a reformed, blameless character
The mother reveal and pacing issues
Plot holes: Alibis and the whodunit problem
Debate on releasing dangerous criminals
Legal loopholes: Profiting from crimes in prison
Mary's breakup and the murder weapon in the kitchen
Mary's mom's hostility and workplace dynamics
Drug use and the movie's conservative themes
Crime statistics vs. the movie's fear narrative
Mary's 'purity' and the twist of the real mother
Scene-by-scene: Opening shower scene and credits
Lila Loomis's name and the investigation
Norman's competence and the 'I'll be home' note
The evil aunt and the diner scene
Mary's job struggles and homelessness
Mary's plan to frame Norman and the Pontius Pilate joke
The motel's status and haunted house real estate
Loomis's authority and the OJ Simpson analogy
The murder knife in the drawer and Mary's resemblance
Mary calls her mom and Norman's backstory
Norman's feelings for Mary and the caretaker dynamic
The diner knife incident and Norman quitting
Mary's excuse and the mom's plan to kill her
Police check-in and the mother in the window
The basement scene and the 'cupage' debate
The murder of the boy and the telegraphing
Norman's alibi and the police investigation
Lila's admission and Mary's call to her mom
The peephole and Norman's knife walk
The phone calls and the 'mother' on the line
The doctor's visit and the sheriff's call
The bodies in the swamp and Lila's death
Mary's death and the police shooting
The final reveal and the movie's premise
Behind the scenes: Hitchcock's silhouette and set details
Casting: Meg Tilly, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Anthony Perkins
Fun facts: Christopher Walken and the rejected theme
The novel vs. the film and Universal's reaction
Box office performance and budget
Listener review from Ryan B.
Outro: Sister podcast and social media handles
Patreon promotion and sign-off
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