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Climate Uncertainty: The Coolest Year for the Rest of Our Lives? with Zeke Hausfather

Sep 30, 2026 · 1h 32m

Summary

Nate Hagens interviews climate scientist Zeke Hausfather about the IPCC’s upcoming Seventh Assessment Report, focusing on how new models incorporate biogeochemical cycles to better predict future warming. They discuss the evolution of emission scenarios, the distinction between different climate sensitivity metrics, and the significant impact of the current Super El Niño on global temperatures. Hausfather explains that while the ocean buffers immediate heating, it will prevent cooling even if emissions stop, and he predicts 2027 will be the warmest year on record due to the El Niño’s lagged…

Topics discussed

Introduction: Three uncertainties in future warming Guest bio: Zeke Hausfather and Berkeley Earth Welcome and background in tech and academia Insights from startup and Silicon Valley experience Climate tech lens and energy behavior change Solutions that improve lives vs. behavior change The complexity of calculating Earth's temperature Global temperature records and research groups Ensemble modeling and uncertainty representation The IPCC assessment process and collaboration Optimism from international scientific cooperation IPCC Working Groups: Physics, Impacts, Mitigation Understanding climate physics and feedbacks Evolution of emission scenarios: SRES to SSPs Working backwards from end-of-century targets Explaining Radiative Forcing and RCPs Forcings vs. Feedbacks in the climate system Biosphere complexity and carbon cycle uncertainty Translating CO2 concentrations to warming Climate sensitivity ranges and percentiles Equilibrium vs. Transient Climate Sensitivity Long-term warming and Earth system sensitivity El Niño as a preview of future warming Historical El Niño years and temperature records El Niño as a glimpse of the new normal Overview of Shared Socioeconomic Pathways (SSPs) SSP3: Conflict, nationalism, and low cooperation Fossil fuel trends and the cost of solar Growth of solar and electric vehicles EV adoption and oil demand shifts Success stories in emissions reduction Atmospheric CO2 trends and emission cuts Ocean heat capacity and future cooling Ocean warming dynamics at zero emissions El Niño timing and peak measurements Global vs. regional El Niño temperature impacts El Niño effects: Droughts and weather patterns Global mobilization and preparation for El Niño El Niño as natural variability vs. climate change Aerosol demasking and accelerated warming Public attention and future climate priorities Aerosol demasking and historical warming Quantifying the aerosol cooling effect Public health benefits of pollution reduction Current warming rates and aerosol cuts Radiative forcing and energy balance Cloud feedbacks and model sensitivity Methane as a warming contributor Methane chemistry and atmospheric lifetime Methane sources: Permafrost and wetlands AI as a tool for climate science Limitations of AI in physics-based simulation AI for answering climate science questions AI and the fragmentation of information AI recentering scientific expertise Energy intensity of AI prompts Energy use of reasoning models and agents Comparing AI energy use to traditional search Productivity gains from AI tools Future of AI compute and cost efficiency Three major uncertainties in future warming Warming projections under flat emissions Tail risks and planning for high-end scenarios Long-term warming beyond 2100 Biosphere response to zero emissions Deforestation and land use changes US withdrawal from IPCC and data loss EU efforts to replace US climate data functions Concerns over data gaps and political shifts Politicization of climate science Treating climate as a normal problem Individual actions: Voting and engagement Behavioral changes and technology adoption Combating apathy and doom Global polarization and cooperation The most effective climate solution Carbon removal technologies overview Enhanced rock weathering in agriculture Scaling carbon capture and removal Renewable investment and emission trends
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