The Ezra Klein Show The Ezra Klein Show

What Xi Jinping Wants

Jul 14, 2026 · 1h 43m

Summary

Ezra Klein interviews former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, who shares his unique insights into Xi Jinping’s ideology and ambitions. Rudd details his academic research on Xi’s writings, tracing the leader’s rise through the Communist Party and his shift toward strict Leninist control. The discussion covers Xi’s views on history, the Soviet collapse, and his consolidation of power through anti-corruption campaigns and military purges.

Topics discussed

Introduction and guest background Guest's career path and early encounters with Xi Xi Jinping's family history and political socialization Leninist ideology and Xi's rise through the party ranks Xi's consolidation of power and anti-corruption campaigns The Tiananmen Square incident and its impact on Xi Crackdown on dissent, media, and military purges Xi Jinping Thought and Marxist-Leninist ideology Nationalism, economic strategy, and surveillance Youth unemployment, property crisis, and tech crackdowns Industrial policy, EVs, and state subsidies US-China strategic competition and historical views Bipartisan US policy and managing the rivalry Taiwan crisis risks and deterrence strategy Book recommendations and conclusion
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