How Trump Has Changed, With Maggie Haberman
Jul 31, 2026 · 58m
Summary
Ezra Klein interviews New York Times correspondent Maggie Haberman about her book *Regime Change*, analyzing the chaotic dynamics of Donald Trump’s second term. They discuss Trump’s impulsive decision-making, particularly regarding the Iran war and trade policies, driven by an insular information bubble and a lack of strategic coherence. Haberman highlights how Trump’s administration bypasses traditional norms, leading to unprecedented self-dealing and a fractured relationship with his own political base over issues like the Epstein files.
Topics discussed
Introduction and sponsor message
Overview of Trump's first year and DOGE
Trump's mindset, revenge, and Iran policy
Netanyahu's influence and regime change plans
MAGA movement dynamics and Epstein crisis
White House operations and information flow
Corruption, wealth, and public perception
Legal immunity and congressional oversight
Truth Social monetization and legislative agenda
Immigration strategy and inner circle power
Visual governance and the Mamdani meetings
Trump's health, legacy projects, and book recommendations
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