The Economics of Everyday Things The Economics of Everyday Things

81. Guide Dogs

Oct 12, 2026 · 21m

Summary

This episode explores the economics and rigorous training behind guide dogs, featuring Pat McKenna and The Seeing Eye’s director, Peggy Gibbon. It details the $75,000 cost to breed and train a dog, the complex matching process, and the concept of "intelligent disobedience." The discussion also covers the hidden social costs of public access challenges and the legal protections under the ADA that guide dog owners face.

Topics discussed

Sponsors: U.S. Bank and NPR Politics Podcast Pat McKenna's daily commute with guide dog Raven The high cost and elite training of guide dogs History of guide dogs and the founding of The Seeing Eye Breed selection: Why Labradors are preferred Genetic screening and early puppy socialization The role of volunteer puppy raisers Professional training: Curbs, traffic, and repetition Intelligent disobedience and the challenge of EVs Advanced training, certification, and matching process Sponsors: NetSuite, Mint Mobile, and Alloy Pat McKenna's personal history with blindness Matching criteria: Lifestyle, energy, and physical ability Financial costs for owners and The Seeing Eye Public access challenges and ADA rights The lifestyle benefits of having a guide dog Closing remarks and final sponsors
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