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The Dirt Division E050 | Developing Running Shoes, Misadventures, Nnormal Kjerag 2.0

Oct 14, 2026 · 1h 59m

Summary

Hosts Taylor and Johnny discuss Alex's absence as she participates in a 260-mile relay around the Great Salt Lake to raise awareness for water usage. Johnny shares his personal health journey, detailing how undiagnosed urinary issues have disrupted his training, leading him to adopt hiking and Zwift cycling to maintain fitness. The conversation shifts to a technical breakdown of running shoe development, comparing the specific variables of road versus trail shoe design. They analyze key components like uppers and outsoles, using a grading scale to determine which performance attributes are …

Topics discussed

Intro and announcement of new podcast channels Dakota's injury and the community relay effort Cross-training with cycling and hiking during injury Challenges of using smart trainers and virtual racing Benefits of power metrics and cross-training for runners Navigating medical systems and undiagnosed symptoms Mental health, seasonality, and the need for a break Cycling frustrations and combining multiple activities Road trip to Arkansas and trivia about Walmart Getting lost on a bike and a dog chase story Bike mechanical issues and the complexity of cycling Transition to running shoe performance attributes Road vs. trail shoe development and the 4D concept Shoe anatomy: Upper volume, width, and toe box Shoe anatomy: Heel hold, lockdown, and structural support Shoe anatomy: Tongue, gussets, and laces Shoe anatomy: Upper materials, breathability, and durability Shoe anatomy: Footbed and insole comfort Midsole: Cushioning, energy return, and rocker geometry Midsole: Stability and ride characteristics Midsole: Foam durability and life cycle Outsole: Grip, traction, lugs, and mud shedding Overall comfort, step-in feel, and outsole coverage Weight as a performance enhancer Data analysis of priorities and closing remarks
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