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The Woman Who Saved Me on 9/11

Sep 11, 2026 · 26m

Summary

In this BBC World Service episode, host Colin Flynn interviews Paul Karus, a survivor of the 9/11 attacks, on the 25th anniversary of the tragedy. Karus recounts his harrowing descent from the 71st floor of the North Tower, where he helped Judith Toppen, a stranger, navigate the stairs despite the chaos. Their shared experience sparked a profound spiritual awakening for Karus, leading him to confront his past hypocrisies and eventually become an ordained Catholic deacon. The story explores how this act of kindness not only saved Toppen’s life but also transformed Karus’s faith and identity.

Topics discussed

Sponsorship and show introduction Paul Karus recounts the moment the tower fell Episode context: 25th anniversary of 9/11 Paul's current life as a deacon and PTSD triggers Paul's career history and return to the Port Authority The morning of September 11th and the first impact Encountering Judith and the decision to help Descending 71 floors with Judith Ignorance of the second attack and the wind blast Praying during the descent and exiting the lobby Navigating the debris field and seeing the bodies The North Tower collapse and physical reaction Sponsorship segments for Addie and Schwab Sponsorship segment for Wise and recap Ambulance ride through traffic to the hospital Reunification with family and Judith's call Post-9/11 anger and seeking spiritual help Therapy, Judith's book, and feelings of hypocrisy The Curillo retreat and deepening faith Ordination as a deacon and mutual salvation Judith's passing and Paul's final reflections
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