Olivia Rodrigo Tried Writing Love Songs. Then Life Got Messy.
Summary
The New York Times’ PopCast hosts John Caramanica and Joe Coscarelli interview Olivia Rodrigo about her new album, *Vampire*. They discuss the record’s chronological narrative, its shift toward 80s new wave sounds, and Rodrigo’s songwriting process. The conversation also covers her recent SNL hosting experience, where the hosts helped correct a script error, and her evolving perspective on love and fame.
Topics discussed
Intro, Popcast news, and breathwork warm-up
Welcome Olivia Rodrigo and SNL hosting stories
The narrative structure and themes of GUTS
Songwriting process and sonic influences
Vulnerability, anxiety, and writing about love
Looking back at SOUR and the sophomore slump
Political views, Disney, and internet detectives
Favorite songs and connecting with young fans
Ambition, child acting, and handling criticism
Emotional development and Sex and the City game
Card game questions: Jealousy and friendships
Card game questions: DMs, heroes, and fangirling
Tasting Hershey's chips and outro
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