What’s Epic About the ‘Odyssey’? Everything.
Jul 12, 2026 · 50m
Summary
Hosted by Natalie Kitroeff, this episode features translator Emily Wilson and author Madeline Miller discussing Homer’s *The Odyssey* ahead of Christopher Nolan’s film adaptation. They explore the epic’s themes, character complexities, and the challenges of translating and retelling ancient myths for modern audiences. The conversation also addresses recent backlash against the movie’s casting and creative choices, emphasizing the value of diverse interpretations.
Topics discussed
Intro and playful banter
Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey and guest introductions
Summary of the Odyssey and Emily's origin story
Madeline's origin story and Penelope's weaving trick
Emily's translation approach and iambic pentameter
Madeline's novel Circe and the witch's perspective
Translation challenges: repetition and epithets
Retelling vs. translation and Circe's humanity
Criticism, trolling, and the value of multiple interpretations
The universal resonance of Homer's characters
Ad break and production credits
Odysseus: complexity, trauma, and duality
Penelope: intelligence, testing, and inner life
Telemachus: coming of age and fatherlessness
The gods: Athena, Poseidon, and Calypso
Ad break and podcast promotion
Excitement for the movie and casting choices
Criticism of casting and the history of adaptation
Concerns about Hollywood simplifying social dynamics
The theme of hospitality and welcoming strangers
Closing remarks and final ad
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