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We Underestimated the Neanderthal

Jan 25, 2026

Summary

Hosts Carl Zimmer and Franz Litz discuss how recent scientific breakthroughs have dismantled the outdated view of Neanderthals as primitive brutes. They explore new evidence of Neanderthal intelligence, including their use of fire, art, and language, as well as DNA findings that prove interbreeding with modern humans. The episode also introduces the Denisovans, a newly discovered human lineage, highlighting how these revelations challenge our understanding of what it means to be human.

Topics discussed

Sponsor: TikTok Weekend news preview: Winter storm and Minneapolis shooting Introduction: The re-evaluation of Neanderthals Hosts' personal connections to Neanderthal history Defining Neanderthals: Timeline and geographic range The 1856 discovery in the Neander Valley The Old Man of La Chapelle and the origin of the caricature Cultural bias and the 'caveman' stereotype in science and media Sponsor: Lincoln in the Bardo and NYT Election Coverage Sponsor: New York Times App and Election Coverage Extracting Neanderthal DNA and proving interbreeding Neanderthal DNA in modern humans, including in Africa New archaeological evidence: Burials, fire, tools, and art Sponsor: NYT Shows Tab Introducing the Denisovans: A third human lineage Denisovan physical characteristics and global distribution Evidence for other undiscovered human lineages Reflections: What Neanderthals teach us about humanity and bias Credits and sign-off Sponsor: Book Review Podcast
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