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Want to ‘Optimize’ Your Happiness? This Happiness Expert Says: Don’t.

May 30, 2026

Summary

Host Lulu Garcia Navarro interviews Yale psychologist Dr. Laurie Santos to explore why Americans are increasingly unhappy despite a culture of wellness. They discuss the difference between fleeting hedonic pleasure and meaningful eudaimonic well-being, arguing that true happiness requires active effort and social connection. The conversation highlights how technology, AI, and "lawnmower parenting" hinder our ability to form bonds and manage negative emotions, urging listeners to embrace solitude and reframe their pursuit of joy.

Topics discussed

Introduction: The paradox of modern unhappiness Defining happiness: Hedonic vs. Eudaimonic The genetics and malleability of happiness The paradox of pursuing happiness Historical shifts and the loss of social friction Technology, loneliness, and the decline of connection Time famine and the value of solitude Gen Z, helicopter parenting, and fear of failure Productivity culture and the pursuit of perfection Social safety nets, structural change, and conclusion
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