Host Zolan Kanno-Youngs interviews Ben Castleman about the economic impact of AI, noting that current data is too murky to determine if jobs are being lost or gained. Castleman compares the situation to the 1990s, contrasting the gradual internet revolution with the sudden "China shock" to illustrate potential outcomes. He argues that while AI’s long-term effects are uncertain, policymakers must improve measurement and support systems to help workers adapt to rapid technological change.