Host Katie interviews IAM leader Andrea Ursu about identity burnout, a critical issue affecting nearly half of professionals due to scope creep and constant interruptions. They discuss how to combat this through empathetic leadership, clear RACI models, and shifting IAM from a help-desk role to a strategic platform. The episode also explores how AI and automation can reduce manual workload and alert fatigue, emphasizing the need for IAM leaders to be involved early in projects to establish sustainable governance and career growth paths.