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Should you Brick your phone?

Sep 21, 2026 · 16m

Summary

Host Matt Galloway explores the "Brick," a $59 NFC tag that forces users to physically walk to a specific location to unlock their phone, creating friction to combat digital addiction. Guest Alex Kirshner shares how the device helped him reclaim his time and focus, while psychologist Moxie Mäkelä argues that such gadgets are temporary fixes for deeper issues. Mäkelä contends that the real problem is our habitual relationship with screens, noting that tech companies design apps to be addictive and that society needs to develop "attention literacy" rather than relying on simple blockers.

Topics discussed

Sponsor: Perk travel and spend platform Intro: The problem of phone addiction The Brick: A physical device to block apps Interview with Alex Kirshner: Personal experience How the Brick works: Friction and physical effort The psychology of 'pickups' and shame Why physical distance beats software limits Benefits: Productivity and shorter work days The irony of using tech to fight tech addiction Perception of time and screen time aggregates Long-term sustainability and purchasing time back Sponsor: Perk and West of Center promo Expert view: Dr. Moxie Heitmeyer on friction Research: The snacking analogy and device habits Study findings: Unconscious phone usage Blaming tech companies and misplaced shame The 'double negative' of moral failure Concerns for youth and the concept of 'brain rot' Societal debate: Regulation vs. individual fixes Developing 'attention literacy' for positive use Outro: Host reflection and contact info
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