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How to Play the Money Game with Michael Santoli

Aug 21, 2026 · 1h 24m

Summary

Josh Brown and Michael Batnick interview CNBC’s Michael Santoli, who reflects on his career in financial journalism and his famous "Mystery Broker" column. The trio discusses the psychology of market predictions, the disconnect between public perception and trader logic regarding interest rates, and why the stock market remains resilient despite geopolitical tensions and high yields.

Topics discussed

Yankees, Jay-Z concert security, and stadium nostalgia The psychology of prediction and gambling vs. strategy Career origins: From Barron's to CNBC and learning the ropes The value of context, history, and avoiding reflexive contrarianism Sponsor: DBMF Managed Futures Strategy Sponsor: Vanguard Institutional Advisor Services Mike Santoli's career path and the 'Mystery Broker' story Defining bull and bear markets and the role of hindsight The demand for predictions and the 'Mystery Broker' legacy Jim Cramer's evolution and the irony of interest rate logic Treasury yields, inflation, and the $40 trillion debt debate Market resilience, AI rotation, and programmatic trading Algorithmic trading, machine behavior, and the 1987 crash Retail investor flows, options decay, and market mechanics Valuation metrics, Amazon cover bands, and buyback impacts Bull vs. Bear narratives and the search for market tops Historical parallels: LTCM, QuantQuake, and dividend yields AI hype cycles, computer leasing parallels, and cost basis OpenRouter acquisition, AI ignorance, and tech component cycles Closing Bell Overtime, Mike's Market Memo, and Long Island banter
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