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E217: Jakob Schubert - Are the best climbers in the world lead climbers?

Sep 23, 2026 · 2h 4m

Summary

In this episode, hosts Aidan Roberts and Sam Pryor interview climbing legend Jakob Schubert, who reflects on his 67 World Cup medals and Olympic podiums. They discuss the physical toll of longevity, the genetic luck required to avoid injury, and the challenges of adapting to modern bouldering trends. The conversation also covers the evolution of competition formats, the impact of Eurosport on the climbing audience, and the divergence between competition and outdoor climbing skills.

Topics discussed

Introduction and Jakob Schubert's career highlights Competitive schedule and the 2024 season Longevity, specialization, and recent injuries Training, genetics, and preparing for 2028 Olympics Injury prevention and the role of natural strength Adapting to changing competition formats and styles Critique of bouldering trends and media coverage Impact of paywalls and streaming on climbing interest Divergence of competition and outdoor climbing skills Olympic format changes and athlete storytelling Correlation between 9c sport routes and bouldering Logistics and difficulty of climbing 9c routes Sunk cost fallacy and natural vs artificial holds Future of sport climbing and the 9c+ barrier Rest days, finger injuries, and Vegas trips Balancing competition, projects, and content creation Motivation, aging, and recovery in late career Current location and the Google Eyes campus project Beta changes on Mount Doom and Shaolin Flashing hard boulders and mental preparation Patreon questions and Japanese climbers' dominance
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