E214: Louis Parkinson & Joel Robertson will help you Get a Grip
Sep 2, 2026 · 2h 30m
Summary
Louis Parkinson and psychotherapist Joel Robertson discuss their collaborative book, "Get a Grip," which explores the intersection of climbing mindset and mental health. They examine how challenges like self-worth, comparison, and critical inner monologues manifest in the gym and reflect broader life struggles. The conversation highlights how climbing’s high failure rate serves as a prism for understanding these universal psychological hurdles.
Topics discussed
Introduction and guest backgrounds
Origin story of the book collaboration
Book structure and core themes
Balancing climbing specificity with general life advice
Self-worth, inner critic, and performance anxiety
The trap of social comparison in climbing
Motivation: Self-kindness vs. harsh discipline
Intrinsic motivation and loving the process
Vulnerability and insecurities in writing the book
Handling failure, disappointment, and competition
Proportionate emotions and climbing as therapy
Relational healing and the horse rider analogy
Coaching advice: Effort, praise, and community
Critique of grading systems and book launch details
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