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Nikole Hannah Jones on Hard School Choices

Sep 28, 2026 · 24m

Summary

Nicole Hannah-Jones revisits her 2016 decision to enroll her daughter in a segregated Brooklyn school, now reflecting on the mixed outcomes in her new essay. She discusses the challenges of under-resourced schools and the difficult trade-offs Black parents face between integration and community. The conversation highlights systemic failures, such as funding inequities and teacher quality, while acknowledging the impact of individual choices. Hannah-Jones calls for political will to dismantle segregation, urging the mayor to implement concrete plans for equitable education.

Topics discussed

Sponsor spots for Roundabout, Audible, and NYU Skirball Introduction: Nicole Hannah-Jones' 2016 decision Reflections on the original 2016 interview Why she revisited the story and daughter's consent Early signs of school decline after principal change Call-in segment: Parent decisions and values Assessing impact: Individual vs. structural change Perspective on social movements and long-term progress Caller Janet: Generational views on public schools The dilemma: Black schools vs. white schools Rebutting right-wing critiques on funding and standards Caller James: Teacher perspective on parent involvement Question for Mayor Mamdani on dismantling segregation
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