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No Kings Has a New Plan to Stop Trump

Oct 16, 2026 · 38m

Summary

Ezra Levin, co-founder of Indivisible, discusses the upcoming "No Kings" protest on October 17th, which focuses on boosting early voting turnout and recruiting election defenders to counter potential sabotage. He argues that record turnout is essential to make the election "too big to rig" and to counter authoritarian efforts to suppress the vote. Levin also outlines a post-election strategy for Democrats, emphasizing an aggressive accountability agenda and legislative hardball to reinstate democratic norms.

Topics discussed

Introduction: The stakes of the midterm early vote Context: Indivisible and the No Kings movement Guest introduction and the call for collective power Why No Kings 4 focuses on early voting The history and growth of the No Kings protests Goal: Making democracy reassert itself through turnout On-the-ground details of the 3,000+ events Grassroots organization and local mobilization Expectations for turnout and margins of victory Strategy: Making the election too big to rig No Kings as an anti-election sabotage effort Bipartisan and geographically diverse coalition Key issues: ICE, gas prices, and local anger Corruption as a driving force for voters Messaging: Combining affordability and accountability Potential sabotage tactics and countermeasures Preparing for post-election subversion efforts The importance of large margins to prevent fraud claims Texas politics: Backfiring of Trump's tactics Demobilization of Trump supporters and signs Maintaining vigilance despite positive polls Post-election agenda: Accountability and change Scope of accountability: Collaborators and elites Investigating corporate leaders and tech CEOs Democratic vision for 2027-2028 Legislative strategy: Filibuster and economic justice Voter demand for fighters, not folders Indivisible endorsements and primary challenges Warning to Democrats facing 2028 reelection The necessity of mass-scale organizing Beyond voting: Continuous civic engagement Pressuring Congress and building the Third Reconstruction Global context: Authoritarianism worldwide The challenge to 21st-century democracy Civic disengagement and the rise of tech tycoons Breaking the cycle of authoritarian wins The danger of voter apathy and disappointment Investing in local political institutions The value of in-person community dialogue Call to action for October 17th Lightning round: What makes you happy and angry Lightning round: Relaxation and comparison to Hunter Biden Lightning round: Admiration for John Lewis Closing thoughts on grassroots work and optimism
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