Michael Lewis Has a Warning About the State of Our Soul
Oct 7, 2026 · 22m
Summary
Michael Lewis discusses his new book "Blockers," detailing how nonpartisan civil servants resisted the Trump administration's dismantling of federal agencies. The episode highlights specific stories, including the seizure of the Institute of Peace, the departure of fire scientist Alex Marangitis from NIST, and the breach of IRS privacy protocols by Chief Privacy Officer Kathleen Walters. Lewis argues that these "blockers" protected essential government functions and public trust, illustrating the profound damage caused by the administration's chaotic approach to federal governance.
Topics discussed
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Introduction to Michael Lewis's book 'Blockers'
The transformation of the federal civil service
The Institute of Peace and its history
Doge's strategy and the seizure of power
Co-opting the FBI and DC Police
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Why civil servants make compelling characters
Alex Marangitis and the science of wildfire
The impact of red tape and budget cuts on research
The unique role of government in preventive work
The IRS ITIN database and privacy concerns
Kathleen Walters and the refusal to share data
Consequences of data sharing and moral implications
Closing remarks and production credits
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