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BAES 166: Epstein's weird connection to Anthropic

Aug 20, 2026 · 1h 19m

Summary

Ben and Emil discuss Cammie Clark, Dario Amodei’s wife, highlighting her role as a social connector for Anthropic and her past interactions with Jeffrey Epstein. They analyze her background, including failed ventures and ties to tech elites like Eric Schmidt. The hosts also critique Mark Zuckerberg’s new AI manifesto and debate geopolitical risks, such as China’s potential response to US AI dominance.

Topics discussed

Intro: Cami Clark, Dario Amodei, and the Epstein comparison Cami Clark's background, previous marriages, and social role Cami as a connector: Eric Schmidt, Greg Brockman, and Anthropic's founding Cami's 'Edis' porn company and her direct contact with Jeffrey Epstein The 'Edis' website content and Cami's networking in Silicon Valley Mark Zuckerberg's AI manifesto and the 'Future is for Everyone' essay AI race geopolitics, Taiwan, and drone swarm warfare Dario Amodei vs. Gavin Baker on AI regulation and data centers Public perception of AI progress and the 'Dolly' image generator Keith Raboy, Carvana, and Gary Vaynerchuk's NFT 'V Friends' Bonus segment: Airport diarrhea and ChatGPT sponsorship
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