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Jessica Tarlov on her New Book, Role on The Five, and if Civil Discourse is Possible in Donald Trump's America

Sep 10, 2026 · 32m

Summary

Jessica Tarlov discusses her debut book, *I Disagree: Winning Arguments Without Losing Friends*, which blends memoir with practical advice on constructive debate. Drawing from her experience as a liberal co-host on Fox News, she shares strategies for engaging across ideological lines, emphasizing the importance of listening, finding common ground, and using data over anecdotes. Tarlov also reflects on personal moments of vulnerability, such as her father’s passing, that helped her build genuine connections with colleagues and viewers despite political differences.

Topics discussed

Welcome and podcast introduction Guest bio: Jessica Tarlov's background Introducing the book 'I Disagree' Learning to debate as the ideological minority Defining 'winning' an argument Opening minds vs. changing minds The possibility of constructive debate today Finding common ground in policy Algorithmic incentives and polarization The importance of a 'soft start' Why appearing on Fox News matters Modeling cross-ideological communication Navigating debates on abortion and religion Quentin Tarantino's take on The 5 Building personal relationships with colleagues Compartmentalizing politics and relationships Using data and facts in arguments Handling 'alternative facts' and preparation The lost art of listening Public vulnerability and personal grief Key takeaways and final advice Closing remarks and credits
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