Skillet: Jesus in the Trenches | Guest: John Cooper | 10/5/26
Summary
John Cooper of Skillet discusses the band’s journey from the 80s Christian metal underground to mainstream success, recounting how major labels initially rejected them due to their faith. He reflects on the evolution of rock music, noting that Christian influences heavily shaped modern metalcore and that many legacy rock stars are now finding faith. Cooper also addresses the tension between Christian artists and their own community, arguing that judgmental criticism often drives musicians away from the faith.
Topics discussed
Introduction and John Cooper's early Skillet memories
Rumors of a Christian metal revival
Skillet's origins and the desire to cross over
Balancing faith with mainstream rock success
The struggle to sign with Atlantic Records
Signing with Lava Records and Jason Flom
Industry acceptance and touring with secular bands
Commercial success and radio resistance
Rock stars finding faith and the power of music
The shift in rock culture and positivity
Christian dominance in the metalcore genre
Chris Jericho and the underground metal scene
Tooth and Nail and the rise of screamo
Band longevity and internal church criticism
Fatigue with Christian music and crossover amnesia
Misunderstandings about Christian band contracts
Controversy over hymns and Striper's trajectory
New album 'After the Storm' and cultural context
Personal struggles with mental health and faith
Closing remarks and podcast subscription info
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