It’s So Not Over for Hollywood (with Devindra Hardawar)

Jun 8, 2026 · 1h 1m

Summary

Hosts discuss the integration of AI in film with Devendra Hardwar, critiquing Darren Aronofsky’s AI shorts as soulless "slop" while remaining open to Steven Soderbergh’s experimental use. They analyze the failed Disney-OpenAI partnership and Microsoft’s Copilot struggles as symptoms of industry FOMO rather than genuine innovation. The conversation highlights ethical concerns over stolen training data and argues that human creativity remains essential for meaningful art.

Topics discussed

Intro and guest Devendra Nair Darren Aronofsky's AI film and career Steven Soderbergh's use of generative AI Ethics of AI training data and video games AI slop vs. human-made bad movies Good art still exists: Exit 8 and more Sponsors: Incogni and Paka Disney/OpenAI deal and Microsoft Copilot Warner Bros. acquisition and media mergers Home viewing setups and raising film fans

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