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The hidden power of sad songs and rainy days | Susan Cain and Min Kym

Aug 12, 2026 · 18m

Summary

Author Susan Cain explores the "paradox of tragedy," explaining why we are drawn to sad music and sorrow. She argues that this experience is not sadness but a profound longing for a perfect world, which fuels creativity and empathy. Joined by violinist Min Kim, Cain shares personal stories and historical examples to show how embracing this longing connects us to our deepest humanity.

Topics discussed

Introduction: The paradox of enjoying sad music Sponsors: Schwab, Dell, and Land Rover Defender Susan Cain's career shift and discovery of longing Defining inconsolable longing and bittersweet joy The paradox of tragedy and cultural avoidance of sorrow Longing as the source of creativity, empathy, and love Personal story: Meeting Ken and the power of shared longing The Cello of Sarajevo and music in times of war Conclusion: Following your longing to the sacred Outro, credits, and sponsors: Toyota and ServiceNow
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