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The infodemic — and the scientists fighting against it | Jessica Malaty Rivera

Aug 7, 2026 · 21m

Summary

Public health scientist Jessica Malady Rivera discusses the dual crisis of pathogen outbreaks and information epidemics in her conversation with TED curator Whitney Pennington Rogers. Rivera argues that rebuilding public trust requires courageous leadership, transparency, and storytelling rather than simply demanding deference to experts. She emphasizes the need for scientists to bridge the gap between academia and the public by making complex data accessible and acknowledging uncertainty.

Topics discussed

Intro: The dual outbreak of pathogens and information Sponsors: Defender, Kohler, and Dell Defining leadership in public health and epidemiology Courageous leadership when science is politicized Navigating high stakes and finding groundedness Altruism, trust, and the two outbreaks model Using storytelling and personal identity to connect The messaging problem and the need for translation Repairing trust through transparency and humility Hope for the future: Training science communicators Making invisible public health work visible Personal 'why': Sense-making and global justice Outro and sponsors: Kohler, Schwab, ServiceNow
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