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301 – Jane Schoenbrun & Trapped by the Goonies?

Oct 27, 2026 · 52m

Summary

Jane Schoenbrunn discusses her debut novel, Public Access Afterworld, a sprawling trilogy exploring the intersection of media, reality, and identity through the lens of analog television signals. The conversation delves into how the story reflects her personal journey of gender transition and critiques the decay of American culture and capitalist nostalgia. Schoenbrunn also compares her work to postmodern literature and explains the thematic evolution across her filmography, culminating in this more accessible narrative.

Topics discussed

Introduction and Patreon promotion Welcome and reading experience Plot summary and the mysterious signal TV structure and the 1600-page script draft Commitment to the trilogy and creative freedom The role of screens and visual media in fiction Transition, identity, and the internal journey Genre storytelling and articulating trans experience American dream, capitalism, and historical context Postmodernism and the Western genre analogy Sponsor reads: Shopify, Murder She Watched, Picklebottom Nostalgia, analog TV, and the goonies trap Sustainability, accelerationism, and societal strain Cosmic mystery and the 'Lost' comparison Utopia vs. nightmare and TikTok shifting Remakes, hyperreality, and the subconscious Spillage, repressed content, and sitcom references Horror elements: monsters and the dist seer Defamiliarization and anxiety in the narrative Book recommendation: Libra by Don DeLillo Final question: recent sources of fear Host's reflection on the book and author's style Closing remarks and 2027 podcast plans Sponsor reads: Sonic and Vulgar History
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