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Spooky Rivers, with Geo Rutherford

Oct 8, 2026 · 36m

Summary

Host Robert Lamb interviews author and illustrator Gio Rutherford about her new book, *Spooky Rivers*, and her "Spooky Lake Month" initiative. They discuss the science and history behind strange waterways, including the zombie salmon of the Fraser River, the deadly Strid in England, and Tokyo’s underground flood management system. Rutherford also shares her experience visiting the Boiling River in Peru and explains how her background in art and earth science informs her nonfiction content.

Topics discussed

Sponsors and show introduction Guest intro: Gio Rutherford and Spooky Rivers Defining Spooky Lake Month and nonfiction focus Early influences and the Books of Castles Hidden ghosts and the 'good soup' easter egg Origin story: TikTok, Great Lakes, and publishing The creative process: writing before illustrating Comparing the nature of lakes vs. rivers Sponsor breaks and transition to book specifics The zombie salmon of the Fraser River The Goliath tigerfish and Congo River depths Underground rivers: Shibuya and Tokyo's temple Cenotes, the Yucatan, and Atlanta's Flint River Sponsor breaks and transition to travel stories Visiting the Boiling River in Peru The Strid in England and its deadly history Pollution and dead fish in the Thames and Ganges Where to find Gio online and final wrap-up Outro and final sponsor reads
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