The Sunday Interview: The Christian Turn Against Democracy (PART II)
Sep 7, 2026 · 48m
Summary
Robbie and Brad Onishi discuss their new books, Backslide and American Caesar, exploring the parallel crises of democratic backsliding and white Christian apostasy. They analyze how a coalition of theocrats and tech lords is promoting a "save Western civilization" narrative to justify authoritarianism. The conversation highlights the erosion of democratic norms, the appeal of certainty in a chaotic world, and the urgent need for resistance ahead of critical midterm elections.
Topics discussed
Sponsors: Prenuvo, Mint Mobile, and DraftKings
Introduction and joint book discussion setup
Defining backsliding: theological and political contexts
The gradual nature of democratic and spiritual decline
US democracy rankings and the loss of progress
Apostasy in white evangelical spaces
White Christian support for Trump and moral compromise
Double apostasy: faith and pluralist democracy
Extreme attitudes toward immigrants and internment
Manifest destiny and the Cowboys and Indians chapter
Historical imagery in the Capitol and modern amplification
Comparing the US to 1933 Germany and inner resistance
Cognitive dissonance and maintaining moral integrity
Personal resilience and sponsor: Mint Mobile
Introduction to 'American Caesar' and the new political moment
Historical context of American authoritarianism
The failure of the Christian Right to achieve majority status
The 'Save Western Civilization' discourse and its three groups
Common enemies and the need for a strongman
Academic programs and cherry-picked nostalgia
The seduction of Christendom and the appeal of certainty
Post-liberal theology and the danger of totalizing answers
Understanding the human impulse for refuge in hopelessness
Sponsors: Qu and Ground News
Outlook on the upcoming midterm elections
Supporting the network and final sponsor: Mint Mobile
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