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The Sunday Interview: The Christian Turn Against Democracy (PART II)

Sep 7, 2026 · 48m

Summary

Robbie and Brad Onishi discuss their new books, Backslide and American Caesar, exploring the parallel crises of democratic backsliding and white Christian apostasy. They analyze how a coalition of theocrats and tech lords is promoting a "save Western civilization" narrative to justify authoritarianism. The conversation highlights the erosion of democratic norms, the appeal of certainty in a chaotic world, and the urgent need for resistance ahead of critical midterm elections.

Topics discussed

Sponsors: Prenuvo, Mint Mobile, and DraftKings Introduction and joint book discussion setup Defining backsliding: theological and political contexts The gradual nature of democratic and spiritual decline US democracy rankings and the loss of progress Apostasy in white evangelical spaces White Christian support for Trump and moral compromise Double apostasy: faith and pluralist democracy Extreme attitudes toward immigrants and internment Manifest destiny and the Cowboys and Indians chapter Historical imagery in the Capitol and modern amplification Comparing the US to 1933 Germany and inner resistance Cognitive dissonance and maintaining moral integrity Personal resilience and sponsor: Mint Mobile Introduction to 'American Caesar' and the new political moment Historical context of American authoritarianism The failure of the Christian Right to achieve majority status The 'Save Western Civilization' discourse and its three groups Common enemies and the need for a strongman Academic programs and cherry-picked nostalgia The seduction of Christendom and the appeal of certainty Post-liberal theology and the danger of totalizing answers Understanding the human impulse for refuge in hopelessness Sponsors: Qu and Ground News Outlook on the upcoming midterm elections Supporting the network and final sponsor: Mint Mobile
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