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A 10-Time SCOTUS Litigator on the Court’s Conservative Future

Oct 6, 2026 · 14m

Summary

Stanford law professor Pam Carlin joins Joyce Vance to discuss the craft of Supreme Court litigation, offering insights from her ten arguments before the justices. Carlin shares anecdotes about reading "tea leaves" during oral arguments and reflects on the court’s significant shift toward conservatism since her time as a law clerk. The conversation also touches on the impact of popular movements on judicial decisions and the controversy surrounding the court’s "shadow docket."

Topics discussed

Introduction of Pam Carlin and episode preview Challenges of arguing before the Supreme Court Reading tea leaves and predicting case outcomes Reflections on the Bostock decision and oral argument The ideological shift of the Supreme Court over time Justice Alito's views on threats and public criticism Discussion on the Supreme Court's shadow docket
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