25 years after 9/11, is Islamophobia in the US at an all-time high?
Sep 8, 2026 · 39m
Summary
Host Carter Sherman discusses journalist Rosina Ali’s new book, *Seasons of Fury*, which traces the history of Islamophobia in the US from the 1960s to the present. The conversation explores how post-9/11 surveillance tactics and legal tools, such as material support charges, were originally deployed against Muslim communities but are now being used by the Trump administration against other groups. Ali also addresses the current political climate, including the backlash against Muslim politicians like Zohran Mamdani and Abdul El-Sayed, and the designation of CAIR as a terrorist organization…
Topics discussed
Intro: 25th Anniversary of 9/11 and New Schedule
Recap of 9/11 and Ongoing Grief
Mamdani Controversy and Book Introduction
Sponsor: Wayfair Halloween Decor
Rosina Ali's Personal Memory of 9/11
Parental Fear vs. American Exceptionalism
Motivation for Writing 'Seasons of Fury'
1967 War and Early Surveillance of Arab Americans
Racialization of Arabs and National Security Lens
1990s: Conflation of Terrorism and Islam
Rise of Muslim Communities and FBI Surveillance
Pre-9/11 Arrests and the Lead-up to Attacks
Case Study: Mathine Saraj and Flawed Justice
Jury Sentiment and 'Better Safe Than Sorry'
Government Tactics: Informants and Chilling Effect
Legitimized Paranoia and Broad Legal Charges
Expansion of Tools Against Other Groups Today
Sponsors: Kohler, Mayflower, Rubric
Current State: CAIR Designated as Terrorist Org
Islamophobia in Politics: Vance and Al-Sayed
Why Islamophobia is Pervasive Now
Political Strategy and Shifting Public Opinion
Outro and Credits
Sponsors: Wayfair and Rubric
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