Stateside with Kai and Carter Stateside with Kai and Carter

25 years after 9/11, is Islamophobia in the US at an all-time high?

Sep 8, 2026 · 39m

Summary

Host Carter Sherman discusses journalist Rosina Ali’s new book, *Seasons of Fury*, which traces the history of Islamophobia in the US from the 1960s to the present. The conversation explores how post-9/11 surveillance tactics and legal tools, such as material support charges, were originally deployed against Muslim communities but are now being used by the Trump administration against other groups. Ali also addresses the current political climate, including the backlash against Muslim politicians like Zohran Mamdani and Abdul El-Sayed, and the designation of CAIR as a terrorist organization…

Topics discussed

Intro: 25th Anniversary of 9/11 and New Schedule Recap of 9/11 and Ongoing Grief Mamdani Controversy and Book Introduction Sponsor: Wayfair Halloween Decor Rosina Ali's Personal Memory of 9/11 Parental Fear vs. American Exceptionalism Motivation for Writing 'Seasons of Fury' 1967 War and Early Surveillance of Arab Americans Racialization of Arabs and National Security Lens 1990s: Conflation of Terrorism and Islam Rise of Muslim Communities and FBI Surveillance Pre-9/11 Arrests and the Lead-up to Attacks Case Study: Mathine Saraj and Flawed Justice Jury Sentiment and 'Better Safe Than Sorry' Government Tactics: Informants and Chilling Effect Legitimized Paranoia and Broad Legal Charges Expansion of Tools Against Other Groups Today Sponsors: Kohler, Mayflower, Rubric Current State: CAIR Designated as Terrorist Org Islamophobia in Politics: Vance and Al-Sayed Why Islamophobia is Pervasive Now Political Strategy and Shifting Public Opinion Outro and Credits Sponsors: Wayfair and Rubric
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