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Ranking Rock Bands' Best and Worst Songs with Bill Wyman

Oct 2, 2026 · 50m

Summary

Hosts Jim DeRogatis and Greg Kot discuss Bill Wyman’s new book, which ranks every song by classic rock artists like the Beatles, Nirvana, and Pink Floyd. The trio debates specific rankings, such as the worst Beatles track and the merits of Led Zeppelin, while reflecting on their shared history in Chicago music journalism. They also explore the purpose of critical lists in the algorithmic age, arguing that they force critics to take definitive stances and preserve the value of independent music criticism.

Topics discussed

Intro, Patreon, and Goose Island Beer sponsorship Introducing Bill Wyman and his new book 'Rock and Roll Lists' Nostalgia for 90s alt-rock and the dynamic with Bill Wyman The obsessive process of ranking every song by major bands Lists as long-form criticism and the 'listical' format Ranking Beatles songs: 'Good Day Sunshine' and 'Martha My Dear' The utility of best-of lists and taking a critical stand Pink Floyd: Comparing them to Spinal Tap and the 4 distinct eras Led Zeppelin: The 'Peak Flo' era and ranking lousiness Led Zeppelin: John Bonham's performance vs. songwriting Sponsorship: Quince wardrobe staples Critiquing BuzzFeed-style listicles vs. thoughtful criticism Why ranking works for some bands (Eagles) but not others (REM) The Eagles: Media feuds, Rolling Stone, and sexism The ethics of criticism: Critics shouldn't get the last word Nirvana: 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' and the In Utero debate Nirvana: The underground rejection and cultural phenomenon Modern favorites: Boy Genius, Taylor Swift, and avoiding Springsteen Michael Jackson and the irrelevance of the Rock Hall of Fame Bob Dylan's 'Blood on the Tracks' as a perfect record The impact of Rolling Stone and early music criticism Why criticism matters in the age of algorithms and popism Outro, listener call-to-action, and next week's preview Credits and Erie Home roofing sponsorship
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