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Heartland Rock with Erin Osmon, RIP Glen Hansard

Aug 7, 2026 · 50m

Summary

Hosts Jim DeRogatis and Greg Kot first pay tribute to the late Glen Hansard, reflecting on his career and Oscar-winning work. They then interview author Erin Osmond about her book *Won’t Back Down*, which argues that 1980s Heartland Rock artists like Springsteen and Mellencamp were part of a subversive, populist movement against Reagan-era policies. The discussion explores how these protest songs were often misinterpreted as patriotic anthems and examines the genre's lasting cultural impact.

Topics discussed

Intro, Patreon support, and Goose Island beer ad Glenn Hansard's early life, The Frames, and Once Glenn Hansard obituary, Quince, and Squarespace ads Defining Heartland Rock and its political context Misinterpretation of Springsteen and Mellencamp's lyrics Bob Seger's 'Like a Rock' and helping Detroit workers Neil Young's SNL performance and misunderstood messages Talkspace mental health support advertisement Production values, R.E.M., and the 80s rock scene Tracy Chapman, Bonnie Raitt, and the middle class Modern country rock and the decline of mass movements Heartland Rock's legacy in indie and alternative music Erin Osmond's personal connection to the genre Essential songs: Don Henley and John Mellencamp
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